Then what? What if you don’t know what you are reading? What if you understand it wrong? Then what?
Test the spirits to see if they are of God or of something else. The Lord did not leave us as dumb little orphans. He ascended to the Father and the Father sent us the Holy Spirit to teach us all things. Now is the time to call on the Holy Spirit to teach you understanding of what the word of God says. This begins with prayer and asking. Ask and you shall receive.
As in the title picture above, 1 John 4:1 we are told, “1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” We are further told that the Spirit of God confesses that Jesus Christ is the son of God. ” 2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”
But, what if they come saying they are of Christ who has come in the flesh? What then? John goes on to say in verse 4, “4Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
John then stresses what to look for in testing the spirits. He stresses to us that “Love Comes from God”.
7Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 8He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 9In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. 10Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 12No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
13Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. 14And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
This to me, reinforces the words of Jesus to the church at Ephesus where he said, you have left your first love. In their zeal against false teachings they appeared to have forgotten that. The Lord told them to repent and do the first works (that of loving their neighbor as themselves and forgiving them) or else he would come to them quickly and remove their church (candlestick).
That being said, there has been some misunderstandings as to my passion against the preterist views. I have delved into this deeply and many have said that they have as well and so they saw little danger in it. Whereas some things said are scriptural and in that I have no issue. It is in the deeper interpretations that they lay on a person after they lure you in with a common denominator. Whereas John was told to write what has been, what is, and what is to come… they wrap it all up in a small window of time, saying it all has been fulfilled. Whereas I don’t agree, I don’t cast them all into a burning fire who believe that. Not at all. I merely point out where I disagree and why I do so.
They fail to speak of the many martyrs of Christ before the war of AD70, of which those in high places in Jerusalem were the first to start killing the followers of the way of Jesus, starting with Him first, and 3.5 years later stoning Stephen and beginning the all out persecution of the followers of the way of Jesus. Those in charge of the Temple continued to hate and blame them for a revolt by rebels against Rome that had already been taking place during the life of Jesus. It just hadn’t escalated.
Of which the events leading up to that war, history shows that it was the Jews who pleaded with Pilot to execute their enemy Jesus accusing him falsely of which Pilot washed his hands of the man and allowed them to choose one of their prisoners to set free of which was their custom and they freed Barabbas and crucified Jesus. Which brought about a series of events among them the great earthquake, an eclipse that caused darkness and the moon turning to blood, the veil in the Holy of Holies being torn from the top to the bottom, the graves were opened with saints going about the city testifying of the gates of hell being broken and the Lord freeing them from hells prison. Of which the High Priests feared and blamed all the happenings on sorcery. Among a host of other events. Whereas refusing their own Messiah and killing him was an abomination that made their Temple desolate. As Jesus wept and said it was soon to be so, before they killed him.
Matthew 23:36-39
“36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.“
Might we also add that Jerusalem was already under Roman control since 63 BCE when general Pompey conquered Jerusalem and its surroundings. Which prior to that, was under the ruling of the Hasmonean dynasty of Judaea (in power from c. 140 BCE) and the Roman Senate declared Herod the Great “King of the Jews” in c. 40 BCE, Herod not in line to be king at all. He was appointed by Caesar as a favor to Mark Antony.
Nor is there mention that the rejection of their own Messiah and by their own decree is what brought about all the persecution of those who followed the peaceful way of the Lord’s teachings to begin with. Nero was killing Christians and burning them in his patio to entertain his guests after blaming them for setting Rome on fire, on July 18, AD64? Read: July 18, 64 AD: The Great Fire of Rome, Nero Blames Christians! – History and Headlines And those little facts are somehow moot in the fate that had befallen them in Jerusalem?
For example… one writer and the one who did the case study based on preterist views…. He shares the preterist view that everything in Revelation has been fulfilled. And has his own concept of how that all took place.
Below is a page of his work:
He goes on to say, “In my opinion, this view excludes the very people (the martyrs) who were explicitly named in Rev. 20:4 from participating in the 1000 years. On the other hand, I believe the text shows that the saints were beheaded first (AD 66-70) and then reigned with Christ (after AD 70).”
What he fails to show is that was just the beginning of great tribulation of killings and martyrs of the saints for their faith in Jesus and followers of the way of the Lord.
He goes on to proclaim that Satan was captured and bound so that he could not deceive the nations during the thousand years that began during the first revolt and or at least, he says, after Jerusalem fell in AD 70.
And after the 1000 years in AD 132-135 he proclaims that Satan was released and briefly allowed to deceive the nations to war a second time.
So, there you have a big decision to make in absorbing the 1000 years as being merely 60 to 75 years of peace? Where was that peace? But I suspect if you decided to you could take the scriptures as to mean there is no difference between a thousand years and one day? But, I am not buying that one. Are you?
Only to be continued under a succession of Caesars all persecuting the followers of the way. And both Paul and John, among others writing letters to the churches to give them faith that the Lord has not come to destroy the earth and all who are upon it through these evil men and their slaughtering. Was Paul and John lying? I do not believe they were.
He takes a great leap to Revelation 20 to prove his point?
“Rev. 20:8 speaks of the effort to deceive the nations “to gather them together to battle.” This very closely mirrors what took place leading up to the First Great Revolt: “For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of Almighty God” (Revelation 16:14). There are those who would say this was recapitulation, i.e. restating the main points of the same story. However, I believe it’s clear in Revelation 20 that the nations were deceived to war before and after the 1000 years. So that would mean the same story wasn’t told twice, but rather there were two different stories.”
He goes on to say, “2. Apocalypse of Paul
“The Apocalypse of Paul, part of “the New Testament Apocrypha,” proposed the same sequence for the 1000 years. This book states (chapter 21) that the destruction of the first earth (II Peter 3:10, Revelation 21:1) would come first and then Christ would rule for 1000 years. This is supposed to be Paul’s testimony of what he heard when he was caught up to the third heaven (II Cor. 12:1-4):
“And [the angel] brought me down from the third heaven, and led me into the second heaven, and again he led me to the firmament, and from the firmament he led me unto the gates of heaven. And the beginning of the foundation thereof was upon the river that watereth all the earth. And I asked the angel and said: ‘Lord, what is this river of water?’ and he said unto me: ‘This is the Ocean.’ And suddenly I came out of heaven, and perceived that it is the light of the heaven that shineth upon all the earth (or, all that land). And there the earth (or, land) was seven times brighter than silver. And I said: ‘Lord, what is this place?’ and he said unto me: ‘This is the land of promise. Hast thou not yet heard that which is written: Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth? The souls therefore of the righteous when they are gone forth of the body are sent for the time into this place.’ And I said unto the angel: ‘Shall then this land be made manifest after (lat. before) a time?’
“The angel answered and said unto me: ‘When Christ whom thou preachest cometh to reign, then by the decree of God the first earth shall be dissolved, and then shall this land of promise be shown and it shall be like dew or a cloud; and then shall the Lord Jesus Christ the eternal king be manifested and shall come with all his saints to dwell therein; and he shall reign over them a thousand years, and they shall eat of the good things which now I will show thee.’”
He adds, “I haven’t come across any quotes from early church writers stating that the 1000 years would take place before the resurrection of the dead or before the destruction of the first heaven and earth, but if you find any please feel free to share them.”
He needs to reread Revelation 17 all of it. 15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. (Jerusalem was in captivity it was not reigning over the kings of the earth. It never did.)
Not to mention the issues of Revelation 18 that were not yet fulfilled. Verse 11 “And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
Rev. 18:23: “And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.”
And he uses another persons observation to support it, “C. An Observation from a Friend about Gog and Magog
“Revelation 20:7-8 states that when the 1000 years would expire, Satan would be released from his prison and gather the nations, “Gog and Magog,” to battle. There was some discussion under my last post as to whether or not the gatherings of “Gog and Magog” in Ezekiel 38-39 and in Rev. 20:8 refer to the same event. I do not believe they are identical references. As this post reveals, I believe Ezekiel 38-39 was fulfilled during the days of Esther. Ancil McBarnett, who I was able to meet this year and last year at the Blue Point Bible Church conference, agrees and had this to say:
“Ezekiel [38-39] happened during [the time of] Esther. Revelation seems to refer to that to register a similar occurrence on a wider scale. The big clue is Ezekiel describes a war after the people were displaced and then return and then this war took place. In Revelation it’s the same. It describes a war after the people were displaced [in] AD 70, then returned, [and] then this war took place” (Ancil McBarnett, Facebook, April 21, 2018).
“In other words, the “Gog and Magog” attack of Ezekiel 38-39 took place after the Babylonian exile, while the “Gog and Magog” attack of Revelation 20:7-10 took place after the Roman exile. That’s the idea anyway, and personally it makes sense to me.”
Well, that doesn’t make sense to me. I’m sure it might to some others, just not to me. Smile.
Whereas the author of that work is seeking truth, his path is not one I follow. Each will choose their own path as the Lord God gave us all free will to choose. Loving the Lord and having Him in our heart with the Holy Spirit is the most important gift of all and it is by God’s grace that we have been given it. Each must make up their own mind. The letters to the churches the Lord tells each one what is good and what is wrong with them pointing out where they are not correct. He says to some of them to “hold on to what you have until I come.” Knowing that John did write this when on the Isle of Patmos, and was imprisoned there under Domitian who reigned from AD 81 to AD 96, disputes the entire theology on the preterist time frame of John and the book of Revelation.
To Sardis he says, “And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.” Now that is very point blank. He further warns them to remember how they received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If they don’t he will come on thee as a thief, and they won’t know what hour he will come upon them but also says there are a few who have not defiled their garments. To me that is a warning not to follow words that he and others did not say.
To Ephesus he says they hate the same things he hates and can’t bear them which are evil: and they have tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: but they have left their first love and to repent. That sounds to me that they got caught up in judging and forgot to love their neighbor as themselves. We all walk a fine line and in so doing we must remember to stay focused on the Lord and ask the Holy Spirit to show us the truth and not man. Especially in these days of deception which the same deceiver who has gone out into the world then, is the very same deceiver active in the world today. None of that has changed one iota!
That is enough of all of that. Meanwhile, the views of Pastor Melissa Scott cover the events, and prophecy of Daniel and John and show an entirely different view and one that is more solid in scripture and explains the prophetic visions and the words of Jesus. And even in this, each must take what is told to the Holy Spirit to discern. Those who discern and never mention the Holy Spirit but only sight the words of other men… I run from. We all have the gift to talk to the Lord and have the Holy Spirit guide us and teach us. The Holy Spirit will also put others in our path to show us truth. Amen.
In this particular video, Pastor Melissa Scott points out that Daniel was writing of things that would happen in the later days. John was writing of things that must shortly come to pass. At the time of John, they were now in the later days spoken of in Daniel.
Pastor Scott shows us the Greek translations of Daniel 2:28 and Revelation 1:1 and explains the two.
She thoroughly shows in scripture of the word of the Lord to both Daniel and to John and how with John he was to write the things that have been (past), the things that are (in his time), and the things that are yet to come.
Scott continues this study in a step by step look into the scriptures without making a side turn into her own imagination…. she stands solid on what the scriptures said in the context of which they were said and points out different views of others who have interpreted them and many of the places they errored. And where many of the interpretations are yet unclear and fulfillment of some has not yet come.
These are understandable in whatever order you read them. Do watch the entire series which are available on this subject and many others: Pastor Melissa Scott, Ph.D. – YouTube
So as we learn in part and know in part, we must be read the scriptures for ourselves and as John wrote to the churches in his letters he said: John says in 1 John 2:22-23 “Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denied the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father.”
And in 1John 4:2-3 “By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God this is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.”
2 John 1:7, “For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist…”
Most importantly John writes…
2 John, Chapter 1, Verse 10: If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him take part in his wicked works.”
With that being said, Jesus did not send out the disciples to teach others how to be theologians, but to teach that he has risen and to love God with all your heart, mind, strength and soul, and to love your neighbor as yourself. For those are the two greatest commands and to keep those you shall have kept them all. He gave us a light yoke… the Lord said he would dwell in us and the Father would send us the Holy Spirit to teach us all things and protect and comfort us. We are to let no one deceive us but to test the spirits if they are of God or the devil. We are in the world but not of the world. Amen.
Keep on pressing into the Kingdom of God. Press, press, press!
Dianne
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I always enjoy your reports. I Never read commentaries from those who base their understandings from a seminary. I left that BS decades ago recognizing they are blind. I study scriptures, languages, Word, topical, history, politics of that period when applicable. It’s true the Holy Spirit teaches All things so we have no need to listen to those teaching hand-me-downs. The preterists will be taught in the millennium by Elect like all who hold to their own paradigms. This world is filled with lies & deception. Thank you again for the efforts you put into your reports! Love & Peace to you and all my Brethren. Keep the focus on our King!
Dianne grab what you have been grabbing. For what I am seeing, Jesus is helping you to grab Truth that few people understand. You keep pressing. You are on the right path. Keep seeking and don’t listen to anything that doesn’t line up with Jesus’ wonderful, immovable, precious Word.
I am glad you study what Melissa Scott teaches. Her dad Eugene was a great Saint. He is the one who taught me to look outside the box.
My last point. Yes loving you neighbor as yourself is a first love . Jesus is also the first love they had left behind.
Satan’s number one weapon in the churches is to remove Jesus Holy name. He knows that there is no other name under heaven or Earth by which a man can be saved. Also when We Gather in Jesus name the Holy Spirit is present with us.
I used to sit in services where you wouldn’t even hear Jesus name not by the pastor not by the worship team and in that service I never felt the Holy Spirit’s presence.
I tell Jesus all the time, people love your presence, they can deny the words that are spoken in the service but no one can deny Your presence when you show up..
I’m so happy and blessed that the youth today are lifting the name of Jesus Higher than any churches that I have heard in my lifetime.
Hold fast and keep pressing on you are bearing fruit and harvesting for Jesus Glory.
We all need to press forward together. I think it was 2004 when I first discovered Pastor Melissa Scott on late, late night programming that people placed infomercials back before you tube … and I happened upon that one night late. That is when I learned about the Greek and different translations and started looking at the words to see what they meant and seeing which ones I would have chosen to fit the original content and not the poetry in motion of Shakespeare KJV. Today, I see there are all sorts of scrambling up the Greek just like they have all the English. Smile.
That is good you do that. Jesus has given you discernment. You will know what is truth.
Sorry Diane but YOU NEED to grab a copy of Mauro Biglino’s THE NAKED BIBLE and then his GODS OF THE BIBLE and then YOU decide if the scriptures are valid. Biglino has done a monumental dissection of the current Bible, the Old Testament and has pretty much gutted its value as “the word of God”….test your faith and read what he has found by using ancient Hebrew/Greek/Roman translations of original wording. If what he has found regarding the Old Testament and its fabrications, you can imagine how far the New Testament has been creatively amended and or fabricated. Again, can your faith withstand a deep dig into what you’ve believed was “God’s word”??
If he gutted it like a fish… he can eat it up. Not coming to his dinner. However, when we see things we question, it does put us digging into the Word and that digging finds many nuggets we didn’t know about before. There have been many misused words in translation. In the past, before it was popular….I sat and compared words and found different meanings that changed the way it was being interpreted. Those things often meant nothing to others but a lot to me. My faith is tested by how the Holy Spirit moves in my life and how God is there for me. In that, I know the Lord dwells in me and me in Him and the Holy Spirit is my teacher, guide and tester of the spirits as well as comforter and protector. In that is most important of all. And the testing of my heart in is it good or filled with other intentions? I work on that always as to have oil in my lamp. I shudder to think that man has gutted the word of God, but then again, Jesus warned that they would. I am beginning to see more and more why the Lord stressed two commands and made our yokes light.
Many are pushing one world religion and to do that they have to destroy the Bible. They are hard at work.
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Saints are not suppose to wrangle over words. Or argue with a factious person. I call people Yah Butts, who when you show them in scriptures indisputable truths that dispute the error they are espousing, they respond, yah but.
I always tell people, if I can’t show you in scriptures don’t believe me. Some teachings are not even trying to be factual, but more deceptive. Satan can’t stand sound doctrine. Jesus had to correct Satan’s twisting of the Word when he tried to use it against Jesus when He was fasting 40 days. What makes you think that Satan has changed. If He used it against God, what makes one think that he wouldn’t use it against fallen beings.
If Jesus can’t preserve His Word accurate enough to supply His children with truth enough that His Holy Spirit can use it to reveal His Truth to us, then there is no God. I heard somewhere that He is Faithful and True.
Some things are so far off it takes too much energy to bring it back to reality. All we can do is proclaim the Truth and let Jesus do His thing.
Jesus’ Peace, Love, Light, Wisdom Knowledge and Understanding be with you Kent.
I had someone reply to me in a long post about Biglino. They said the God of the OT is not our God. He is a physical god. I do know some Bibles use the word Elohim and many people equate that to God, but Elohim is plural and refers to many gods. Since I know the Bible was tampered with that makes me question everything. I know that researching outside of it is important. Many people won’t read anything else but the Bible. I really can’t say who is right and who is wrong. I just take what I read into consideration because Satan is a deceiver. The problem for me is religion, IMO. There is no religion. Religion is man-made, just like churches are man-made. We have many churches teaching different doctrine. We have many Bibles that are different. It causes confusion and Christians to fight amongst themselves. I don’t believe that is what God intended. I heard, but I can’t confirm, that the Jesuits messed our Bible up. I also watched a video about a man that has always used the same Bible for decades. He had read it many times. One day he noticed that some words in his Bible had changed supernaturally. Like Lion to Wolf. The Lords prayer changes..Trespass to Debt. On earth to In earth. Who to Which. I can’t remember the rest. Some people say it doesn’t matter, they mean the same. To me it matters. I also don’t believe in countless revisions of the Bible, throughout the years, just because they found some old manuscripts. I do believe a lot of books were removed from the Bible. I bought a few like the Book of Enoch, Gad, and Jasher. I also bought a large book that contains the missing books. I believe the very first published Bible should have contained everything God intended to be in it. Of course, it would be quite large..lol. It would have to be several books, IMO. But everything we needed to know whether past, present, or future would have been in it, no changes necessary. A lot of people do not like Jonathan Cahn, but his book about the return of the gods was very interesting. I don’t follow any particular person when it comes to scripture. I read different viewpoints and keep them all in mind. We are constantly learning. It’s not something that we can honestly say that we know everything there is to know and don’t need to research more. The only thing I refuse to do is fight or argue with anyone over it. If someone starts an argument that they are right and I am wrong, I end the conversation. If they speak respectfully that’s fine. If they speak with a serpents tongue, it’s not fine with me. There is a way to speak without causing an argument. Sometimes you just have to say I don’t agree, and end the conversation. The man who told me about Biglino was a name caller and spoke in anger. That is no way to speak to someone. His words could be truth, but who would even consider believing him to be right speaking in that tone. He put people down and degraded them.
Forgot something else. I have many KJV’s, and they are not the same. To me, all versions of KJV’S should read exactly the same. One KJV has debt instead of trespass, and another has trespass instead of debt. Same with the change of lion to wolf in one and the other is lion. I say…which is it?!
We are not to fight about the Word. It is written to remove ourselves and wipe the dust off our feet when others reject the truth. And that is not to make a big scene in doing it… it means to leave it and not battle in vain. It doesn’t mean to agree either. 2 John 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
This was from a letter… he begins it with “1The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth; 2For the truth’s sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever. 3Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
He says for the truth’s sake which dwelleth in us. Meaning the Lord God and Holy Spirit. That is the difference. He who dwelleth in us and shall be with us forever. He blesses her with mercy and peace from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ the son of the Father in truth and love. Those who bring falsehoods do not have the same testimony at all. They do get very angry at those they can’t control and then the harsh words come. We find their personality traits in all who attacked Jesus. It is not a good spirit. Easy to test. The Lord said, let the blind lead the blind. Amen.
The one big truth is each one must struggle with their own testing of their faith. We truly do battle principalities and powers in dark places and even among good people with good intentions who are yet being molded… and then there are some like Saul who have not yet seen the Lord, yet, they will and so… we judge not like others judge… which is not meant to not judge whether to listen or leave… but to not judge them for their actions for we are all with sin and imperfection and we don’t know God’s purpose for them. Today, I see all that as a testing for me. A testing of my heart. Does my heart hate them? No. It hates the false words coming out of them and or the evil deed. Note their struggle…note their anger, note their eyes when they attack. None of that is of God. That is when if you doubted the intent… it is now very clear. It is not of a good spirit. Amen.
So very well said! Thank you Dianne. You’re a blessing.
Keep pushing Dianne.
I love that John. On wings of Eagles.