Today at every turn there is someone with a “new interpretation” of the ideology of scriptures, prophets, gods, strange ideas of Abraham, Jacob, Moses, the Hebrews and the Jews. Even using the Dead Sea Scrolls in a mysterious fashion alluding these to strange ideas of god wars and God Almighty being among gods warring for a position of power.
These take away the Glory of God and all of His creation, let alone God’s Son, Jesus the Christ. It’s anything goes for many of those presenting their ideas as fact, based on their so called wise scholarly backgrounds and labors of reading the manuscripts and deciding such things.
The Word of God is not a book about having good manners… it is about living righteously and not being DECEIVED – THIS IS ABOUT YOUR SOUL!
Correct translation is very important! Word play tricks change meanings and intentions! Which lead to corrupt interpretations of all sorts! Making truth void and the reader complacent! Welcome to Laodicea!
The words “Be not deceived”, need to ring out very loudly these days but who has ears to hear? To the person who has not read the words nor understood the prophets, nor known Jesus the Christ and or understood the fulfillment of the coming of the Messiah prophesied by the prophets, the information presented by many in a mysterious sci fi manner has appealed to and misled many. Especially when many of these ones come in the name of the Lord to set the record straight against apologists and deists who had their own ideas and interpretations of the Dead Sea Scrolls and other manuscripts.
Of which once many of these begin to share their great work, it becomes clear they lack understanding of the words of the prophets, let alone those written in the Dead Sea Scrolls because they lack much of the foundation on which they were written. Nor do they factor in the many false words in manuscripts that entered in to sway and justify times of worshipping Baal and Molock in the groves. Nor understanding of the waywardness of those priests and kingly advisers in the scriptures who were entrusted with God’s law and commandments that caused God’s anger at them for whoring after other gods and sacrificing their own children on altars to Baal. Nor do they mention that God sent prophets to warn them to stop such false worship and gave them much time to turn away from their wickedness, but they refused to repent of such evil acts and return to Him.
Instead, many of these new “You Tube interpreters” use such practices of false worship as proof that God’s chosen people were all of the same pantheon of gods and goddess practices and there was not one God Almighty creator of all creation, but a war of the gods. This is presented like a sick game where the winner takes all? In that they error and take many with them into more blind confusion. It is very sad to see that many comments on such podcasts are thankful to finally understand what these things mean, when they contain such misleading interpretations that are not truth.
That being said, we also do well to follow the history in even more recent “church” times. Going behind the vail of King James.
There are many articles that bear witness to the nature of what took place at the time of King James and the reason why he took charge of the many translations to make one orthodox Bible for all to read. The following excerpts are from an article from “Cuttingedge.org”. I am not saying whether this is all fact or not, but just that it lends some investigating as it gives some interesting connections to other facts of those who have reported many of the same things and explanations to the British Holiday, Guy Fawkes Day, celebrated every November 5th.
Guy Fawkes Night, also known as Guy Fawkes Day, is an annual commemoration observed on November 5th, primarily in Great Britain, involving bonfires and fireworks displays. This holiday commemorates the historic events of November 5, 1605, when Guy Fawkes, a member of the Gunpowder Plot, was arrested while guarding explosives the plotters had placed beneath the House of Lords. The Catholic plotters had intended to assassinate Protestant king James I and his parliament. Celebrating that the king had survived, people lit bonfires around London. Months later, the Observance of 5th November Act mandated an annual public day of thanksgiving for the plot’s failure.
Most people are not aware that originally, these celebrations were held to mark the failure of the Catholic Church to destroy Protestantism in Britain. From an article on the topic titled, “Guy Fawkes Day – The Jesuit Treason and the Gunpowder Plot – Secrets Unlocked”, it states that the gunpowder plot is also known as the Jesuit Treason because it was primarly masterminded by Jesuits.” Read: Guy Fawkes Day – The Jesuit Treason and the Gunpowder Plot – Secrets Unlocked
Some Excerpts:
“Originally the effigies of the Pope were burnt but were later replaced with that of Guy Fawkes.
“This was even celebrated in colonial United States and was called as the Pope Night because effigies of the Pope and the devil were burnt. If the plot had been successful then the King James Bible would never exist, Britain would most probably have been Catholic and Spanish would have been its first language.
“Queen Elizabeth I, succeeded her half-sister Mary and ruled from 1533 to 1603. During her reign, she tried to please both Catholics and Protestants by formally establishing a protestant church but retaining many of the Catholic elements. Her Catholic half-sister Mary had reconciled England back to Catholicism but Elizabeth reversed this by implementing the Act of Supremacy of 1559, which re-established the Church of England and Church of Ireland’s independence from papal authority.“
“This angered Pope Pius V who in retaliation excommunicated Elizabeth and issued a papal bull called Regnans in Excelsis on 25 February 1570 in which he declared her as “the pretended Queen of England and the servant of crime”. He condemned her as a heretic and commanded her subjects not to obey her otherwise they too would be declared heretics.
“The pope encouraged Jesuits to infiltrate and take over England by any means possible. Over the course of Elizabeth’s reign, the Jesuits hatched several plots such as the Ridolfi Plot of 1571 and Babington Plot of 1586 to assassinate Queen Elizabeth and restore Catholicism. Read about the Ridolfi Plot of 1571: Ridolfi Plot | English history | Britannica
Read about the Babington Plot: Anthony Babington and the Babington Plot – Voyager of History (wordpress.com)
Today, Guy Fawkes Masks represent “Anonymous”, among other secret things.
So why did the Jesuits try to blow up the Houses of Parliament?
“The Papacy realized that the success of Protestantism was due to its insistence on using the original Hebrew and Greek texts of Scripture. The Protestants had begun translating and printing the original Bible manuscripts into the local languages of the people thus exposing the anti-Biblical teachings of the Papacy.
“In order to stop the spread of the Bible, the papacy declared it illegal to possess a Bible translated from the true manuscripts and instead pushed its own manufactured Bible called the Catholic Vulgate which was derived from corrupt manuscripts. The papists passed several laws to destroy both true Christians and true Bible manuscripts in order to retain the Papacy’s power and sway over Europe, Africa, the Middle East and the rest of the Christian world. But that did not stop the translations.
Transcribing the Bible from Hebrew and Greek Texts angered the Papacy? Yes.
When the Jesuits realized that such a momentous task was initiated, they immediately devised a plan to kill the King and all the Bible translators. They knew that the scholars had access to the correct Bible manuscripts and if a Bible was compiled and printed under the authority and sponsorship of the King then millions of copies would be made and distributed around the world. This would deliver a deadly blow to the power of the Pope and so the Jesuits fought hard to stop the creation of the King James Bible.
The Jesuits didn’t have any time to waste and so they decided to kill off the major players in the King James translation when the Parliament would open for its first session on November 5th, 1605. The Jesuits were so deeply involved in the treacherous gun powder plot that the plot came to be also known as the Jesuit Treason.
The sinister plot was masterminded by Henry Garnett, the leader of the Jesuits in England along with other Jesuits such as Oswald Tesimond, John Gerard, Nicholas Owen, and Thomas Garnet. These Jesuits were known to be involved in several other plots in the past to kill Protestant Kings and Queens. They set up secret communities and worked to sow seeds of disharmony and sedition amongst the Catholic population. As a result of their behavior, the Jesuits were banned in several countries including England. Nevertheless, the Jesuits would return back to the country and operate covertly to advance their malicious designs and continue to subvert the government and authority of the day.
The fact that Jesuits were involved in the gunpowder plot is recorded by the British Parliament under the direction of King James 1 shortly after the gunpowder plot was discovered.
The Thanksgiving Act was an Act of the Parliament of England passed in 1606 in the aftermath of the Gunpowder Plot.
The preamble to the Act records the following:
“Many malignant and devilish Papists, Jesuits, and Seminary Priests, much envying and fearing, conspired most horribly, when the King’s most excellent Majesty, the Queen, the Prince, and the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Commons, should have been assembled in the Upper House of Parliament upon the Fifth Day of November in the Year of our Lord One thousand six hundred and five, suddenly to have blown up the said whole House with Gunpowder an invention so inhuman, barbarous and cruel, as the like was never before heard of.
The Thanksgiving Act THAT whereas our Sovereign Lord the King had, by the Advice and Assent of his Council, for divers weighty and urgent Occasions concerning, his Majesty, the State, and Defence of the Church and Kingdom of England, appointed a Parliament to be holden at his City of Westminster; That Henry Garnet, Superior of the Jesuits within the Realm of England, (called also by the several names of Wally, Darcy, Roberts, Farmer, and Henry Philips) Oswald Tesmond Jesuit, otherwise called Oswald Greenwell, John Gerrard Jesuit, (called also by the several names of Lee and Brooke) Robert Winter, Thomas Winter, Gentlemen, Guy Fawkes Gent. otherwise called Guy Johnson, Robert Keyes Gent. and Thomas Bates Yeoman, late Servant to Robert Cates by Esquire; together with the said Robert Catesby and Thomas Percy Esquires, John Wright and Christopher Wright Gentlemen, in open Rebellion and Insurrection against his Majesty, lately slain, and Francis Tresham Esq; lately dead; as false Traitors against our said Sovereign Lord the King, did traitorously meet and assemble themselves together; and being so met, the said Henry Garnet, Oswald Tesmond, John Gerrard, and other Jesuits, did maliciously, falsly, and traitorously move and persuade as well the said Thomas Winter, Guy Fawkes, Robert Keyes, and Thomas Bates, as the said Robert Catesby, Thomas Percy, John Wright, Christopher Wright, and Francis Tresham, That our said Sovereign Lord the King, the Nobility, Clergy, and whole Commonalty of the Realm of England, (Papists excepted) were Hereticks; and that all Hereticks were accursed and excommunicate; and that none Heretick could be a King; but that it was lawful and meritorious to kill our said Sovereign Lord the King, and all other Hereticks within this Realm of England, for the Advancing and Enlargement of the pretended and usurped Authority and Jurisdiction of the Bishop of Rome, and for the restoring of the superstitious Romish Religion within this Realm of England. A Complete Collection of State Trials and Proceedings for High Treason and Other Crimes and Misdemeanors from the Earliest Period to the Year 1820 by Thomas Bayly Howell
In conclusion: The gunpowder plot was not some random plot by a disgruntled revolutionary and anarchist but rather a covert operation conducted by the Jesuits and Papists to advance the nefarious purposes of the Papacy to seize control of England and disrupt the publishing of the King James Bible.
Which bring us to another interesting article by cutting edge.org…
King James – The Founder of Freemason Lodges
The KJV – A Freemason Bible
The history of King James’ role in the formation of Freemasonry is mandatory reading in the Hiram Key book of Masonic scrolls attempting to link Christ with the Pharaohs. Freemasonry, in its present form, came into being through the Lodge system, established under the auspices of King James VI of Scotland, (later King James I of England), the only son of Roman Catholic Mary Queen of Scots. At the age of 37, two years after becoming a Mason, James became the first Stuart king of England and immediately began to persecute the Puritans, rejecting their petition to reform the Church of England along biblical lines.
‘James was initiated into Freemasonry, into the Lodge of Scoon and Perth in 1601, at the age of 35. Fifteen years after taking active control of Scotland and five years before becoming English monarch, he ordered that the Masonic structure be given leadership and organization. He made a senior Mason, named William Schaw, his General Warden of the Craft, and instructed Schaw to revamp the entire structure of Freemasonry into what it became today. Schaw commenced this project on 28th December 1598, on the orders of James.’
To this day, the 1611 edition of the King James Bible remains the Freemason Bible and is the edition conventionally used in secret Masonic temple rituals.
Moriel does not, however believe that the Masonic association with the KJV or the Freemasonry of King James, founder of the Masonic Lodge system, detracts from the validity of this outdated but valid translation of the Bible. Nonetheless, it is the Freemason Bible and has been from its inception, commissioned and authorized by the same Freemason King who commissioned and authorized the Masonic Lodge structure. We can only speculate how many members of the KJV Only cult are in fact Freemasons. Read more here: Horror of All Horrors. Original 1611 King James Version Shows Masonic Handshakes All Throughout the Genealogies. (cuttingedge.org)
All that being said, it is always good to look at the deceit and those who practice such things for there is a war going on for your mind and soul. This war is ancient, it is not new. Be not deceived is a dire warning. There are many truths that they simply don’t explain. I’m sure by now you understand why.
Learning what the Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew words mean is a big jump toward learning and discerning truth.
Some may ask, what’s the difference with one word or two? Good grief. Well, my answer to them is… as the serpent said to Eve…”You shall not surely die”. Do you dare to believe that? It’s as simple as replacing one little word… how about instead of love… you put lust? See how that works? Those who do such things surely do.
That is why having someone like Pastor Melissa Scott, taking the time to teach people who to look at the Greek and Hebrew translations is so valuable. Not to say that the King James Bible should be thrown out the window, not at all. But to look at words and see what it meant in its original context in which it was given.
Comparing the Greek against the King James version, there are some big differences.
Many have asked about 2 Thessalonians Chapter 1 and 2. As there are many interpretations. I’m going to list the King James Version and the Greek Version. Together we can look and ask the Holy Spirit for discernment. I will also weave Pastor Melissa Scotts Greek teachings in the midst of them that give a good instruction on how to look at translations throughout the Bible.
KJV 2 THESSALONIANS 1:1, “ 1 Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: 2 Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. 3 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is meet, because that your faith groweth exceedingly, and the charity of every one of you all toward each other aboundeth; 4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure: 5 Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:
6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you; 7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day. 11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power: 12 That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
KJV 2 THESSALONIANS Chapter 2: 1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Greek Version, 2 Thessalonians Chapter 1
- Paul and Silvanus and Timothy to the church of Thessalonians.
- In God the Father of us and the Lord Jesus Christ, Grace to you and peace from God the Father of us and the Lord Jesus Christ.
- To give thanks we ought to God always concerning you, brothers, even as right it is because grows exceeding the faith of you and multiplies the love one of each, all of you to one
- another so as us ourselves in you to boast among the churches of God for the patience of you and faith in all
- the persecutions of you and the afflictions which you endure, a clear token of just judgement of God for to be counted worthy you of the
- Kingdom of God, for which indeed you suffer, since a just thing with God to repay to those afflicting you affliction. And to you those
- being afflicted rest with us, at the revelation of the Lord
- Jesus from heaven with angels of power of Him, in fire of flame giving full vengeance to those not knowing God and to those not obeying the gospel of the Lord of us, Jesus
- Christ, who the penalty will pay, destruction eternal from (the) face of the Lord and from the glory of the strength of Him,
- When he comes to be glorified in the saints of Him and to be admired in all those believing, because was believed the testimony
- of us to you, in day that for which indeed we pray always concerning you that you may count worthy of the calling the God of us and may fulfill every good pleasure of goodness and work
- of faith in power, so as may be glorified the name of the Lord of us. Jesus Christ in you and you in Him according to the grace of the God of us and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Greek Version 2 Thessalonians Chapter 2
1. We ask you brothers by the presence of the lord of us, Jesus Christ, and of us gathering together to 2. Him, for not quickly to be shaken you from the mind, not to be troubled neither through a spirit, nor through speech, nor through epistle as through us, as that is come the day of the Christ.
3. Let not anyone you deceive by no way because unless comes the falling away first and is revealed the man
4. of sin, the son of perdition, he opposing and exalting himself over everything being called God or object of worship so as him in the Temple of God as God to sit. Showing himself that he is a god.
5. Do not you remember that yet being with you 6. these things I told you? And now the thing restraining you know, for to be 7. revealed him, in the of him time. (The) for mystery already works of lawlessness. Only he restraining now until out of 8. the midst it comes. And then will be revealed the lawless one whom the Lord will consume by the spirit of the mouth of Him and
9. nothing by the brightness of His coming: the coming according to the working of Satan in all power and 10. signs and wonders of a lie, and with all deceit of unrighteousness in those being lost; because the love of the truth
11. not they received for to be saved them. And because of this will end to them, God a working of error for to believe them 12. the lie, that may be judged all those not believing the truth, but having had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13. We but ought to thank God always concern you brothers having been loved by the Lord because chose you God from the beginning to salvation in sanctification of the spirit and 14. belief of the truth to which He called you through the gospel of us, to obtainment of the glory of the Lord of us. Jesus 15. Christ. So then brothers stand and hold the traditions which you were taught either by word or by an epistle of us
16. Himself and of us, Jesus Christ, and the God and Father of us, The one loving us and giving comfort eternal 17. and a hope good by grace, may He comfort of you the hearts and establish you in every word and work good.
Here’s what I gathered on some of the differences in the Greek and KJV of 2 Thessalonians 1 and 2. “In the opening of chapter 2, Paul is addressing the people to recall the gathering of them in the name of the Lord and assuring them not to be troubled through a spirit, speech or through an epistle through us (meaning Paul et al) as it meaning that of the day of the Christ. In the Greek, I do not read this as referring to the gathering away of a rapture. Reading it slow and pondering it. It sounds more like the people thought they were doomed to the wrath of God because of their afflictions and Paul reassures the differences of such a time so they can reason it has not happened yet. He reminds them that when he was with them he told them these things. What “these things” mean? It sounds to me like he was referring to the fact that they would undergo persecutions as they all have. So expect that to be. How do you perceive this?
We look at 2 Thessalonians chapter one, Paul reveals that they knew of the revelation of the Lord Jesus and it appears he is reminding them, or refreshing them of what the epistle from them is (for they have had the questions and fear that their afflictions mean a great doom and we don’t know for sure what they had said to Paul or what their original woe was?) Reading Paul’s reassurance, “at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with angels of power of Him, in fire of flame giving full vengeance to those not knowing God and to those not obeying the gospel of the Lord of us, Jesus Christ, who the penalty will pay, destruction eternal from (the) face of the Lord and from the glory of the strength of Him”. This teaching is giving hope, encouragement and reassurance that none of the evil afflicted on them would go unseen by God, and God shall punish all those who do evil. He could have been reminding them of what he had told them, as from a vision from the Lord, or quoting from the book of Enoch, or the book of Jude. As the word “revelation” often sends people to John’s Revelation of Jesus Christ but that can be ruled out. For the Foxe Book of Martyrs states that John was banished to the Isle of Patmos by Domitian who reigned from 81 A.D. to 96 A.D. (There are many different reports and ideas on this, and it is not worth arguing, each can ask the Holy Spirit to give them discernment.) FOXE’S BOOK OF MARTYRS (ntslibrary.com)
We also know that Paul was beheaded in Rome under Nero sometime around May or June of 68 A.D., according to Eusebius of Cesaria and his records.
That being said, there are many possibilities of how the people at the church of the Thessalonians were confused on what was taking place and without knowing what Paul said to them when he was with them prior, and what was said to them by others to have them become confused, we can only speculate what was misconstrued. Yet, we fully understand their confusion for today we are still in the midst of many opinions and interpretations of the very same scriptures and what they mean. Wouldn’t it be nice to know what the message was that was sent to Paul for him to write such a letter?
The Lord spoke of what to watch for and stressed many times to “Be Not Deceived”. I am certain there were many things He also told the apostles during His ministry. For it is also written in John that if all the books were written of what the Lord had done the world could not contain them.
John 21:25 25And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
KEEP ON PRESSING INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD! PRESS, PRESS, PRESS!
DIANNE
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Another great post. I’d like to add: after using the Strongs Concordance and looking into every word in the KJV1611…. Then additionally utilizing a Crudens from the 1790’s for proper noun meanings I have found the “Peshitta Bible,” one translated from Aramaic (the language our Lord spoke) directly into English and predates all other versions to give a very clear understanding. I highly recommend anyone with a sincere interest in what the Holy Spirits words actually are and have been to acquire a copy.
Thank you John. Agreed!
Dianne do you have a recommendation for which Peshitta Bible to read if you were looking to purchase a copy? I have looked on Amazon and there are several so just confused on which one would be best.
For the old testament -“The Aramaic Peshitta Tanakh”. It is translated directly from the original, pre-Masoretic text of the Hebrew Bible, it was used since around 200 BC. Here is a link so you can read it online. https://pshitta.com/english/ For the new testament in Aramaic, there are many new translations into English. Here is one from online… https://www.buffaloriverforge.com/peshitta/NT%20Peshitta%207th%20Ed%20Plain%20Text%20Unnoted.pdf For the new testament translation, You may want to read through some and see which one is best. I can’t say which is better than another except for the Aramaic Peshitta Tanakh as it was transcribed from what was used at the time of Jesus and before. Hope this helps.
Thanks so much for this information. I will check these out. Appreciate your help. Dianne I just wanted to tell you that I have gotten an error code 521 several times the last two days when trying to log in. I usually keep trying and it finally works but wanted to make you aware if you were not already.
I know, trying to resolve that issue. Thanks for being patient. I also found this. https://youtu.be/205NrZmVWLw
Paul’s letters in Thessalonians have the same theme, return to Christ and live for Christ til He returns. The first letter answered the people’s most troubling questions (what happens if we die before Christ comes). Then some unknown person communicated the return of Christ had already happened? (2:2) The second letter assured them and told them what would happen before the day of Christ. He told them to stand fast and be not moved by the persecution and pray. I think it’s interesting Paul talks about the man of sin and his lawless acts and details certain things like truth being rejected, a specific unique walking away from the truth people ‘once’ believed? It makes me think of all the lies we have believed that we have walked away from. He that restrains will do so until he (the lawless one I would say) is revealed (unveiled) and taken out of the way. It makes it seem like the seekers of truth are the ones who won’t receive the love of truth and be saved, but the way he is used, it maybe another way to delude us into believing a lie, satans plan from the beginning. When I learned the rapture may be a lie, I was sad to think I wasn’t going to be rescued to a magical place. I struggled understanding how we as people, who are so broken, become the humans God intended us to be. I have hope that when God does take away evil, it will be a spectacular event. Order out of chaos, I stand and wait🌼
Just wow…. Read this earlier this morning… I never knew some of this information. As usual…. You Dianne, are “reading my mail.” Just got on Youtube to see what shows up, and this video from Walter Veith is in the list… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XknVG3ZSUf4
I just wanted to say the Greek translation, Greek Bible verses make me feel Relieved, Loved and at Peace. I feel Paul is trying to put our minds at ease that we are Loved. That the words show sympathy and understanding and are trying to show us even though we are weak and evil gets to us, God Loves and Cares for us, all we have to do is come back to our Lord and acknowledge our weakness. I do not mean to change any words, this is just how I feel in general that the Greek Bible talks more to my heart. So I am confused is there a Greek Bible that is done in English? I know there are different bibles. I have a KJV and Dianne showed a Greek translation but from where did you get the Greek Translation from? I don’t know if I am missing something that I should read to get better understanding as I read the whole KJV Bible. The little Dianne has wrote for this report with the Greek verses I see the differences and am curious 🧐 You know I am very simple in my understanding but the Bible was opened up to me by the pushing of the Lord and now I am more curious. 😊
You can buy a Bible that has Greek, Hebrew and English translations. Interlinear Bible Hebrew/Greek/English One Volume Edition is the one I use. You can buy an interlinear Bible that has Greek to English translations, or Hebrew to English, I have the one that has both. I bought it years ago and was so glad that I did. It helped a lot to read what Hebrew words said and Greek. That is a big threat to those who push their own ideology. Each must read with the Holy Spirit leading them and ask for discernment. Follow your Holy Spirit’s lead on all things. Amen.
Ok, Thank you Dianne! Just before I got to read this message I reread the comments before and yes I like the one that does both transactions. I didn’t realize there were so many and it would be nice to have one that does both! The reason I wanted this is because when you showed the difference the words mean, I cried because the Word became alive and showed the Love Father God and his Son Jesus has for us. My Heart was bursting with Joy. When reading the translation into English it has lost that Loving touch to the point where I was warned from a friend that the Bible was nothing but depressing and about death ect I knew it was not what she said because I knew how I had been helped as a little girl. I knew I had to find out things for myself and that is, the Why, The Holy Spirit pushed me to read! I think now that the devil was trying to dissuade me but the nudging was greater to Read! You are correct you have to discern and ask and then follow the Holy Spirits Lead! I just Felt there was More and the More is finding out why we are Loved and How we are Loved, the Love is hidden because of the changing of the word, paragraphs and omitting words. People will go through Great perils to Find Love and Keep Love and Be Loved. That is not a one way street as Father God and Jesus his Son is doing for us to Keep us.
You can see this moved me, this post and now I will quit babbling. May Everyone Find Gods Love and then bring it to others, the Love is Everywhere in the tiniest thing, it starts inside then Blooms! Amen
Amen, Amen & Amen!!! Excellant article, Dianne! Discernment – not being deceived- has been my prayer for years and God has not let me down. So much info here and I agree 100%. Thank you for puting this all down!
Wow! That is a lot of history which I never new and a lot to think about there. Yes, much is lost in translation. We do need the Holy Spirit and the word to come together as Tammi mentioned. I love these lessons! So much to think on! So then I come back to wondering what version are we to read?? When reading the Greek, it is necessary to slowly read to comprehend it. It is sad to think that people who attend church services who never open a Bible to read have no clue how they are being deceived by the many misinterpreted teachings out there. But even more sad is that they don’t care or seek to find out.
Translations matter. Talk to anyone whose second language is English and you will see what I mean. The biggest stumbling block for anyone trying to learn a different language is the many different meanings and uses of one word. There are thousands of words in each language that have many meanings. And most languages have words that are only theirs with no direct translation word. Often you will hear what the word means but not what the word is in English. This is true in every language. Add slang into the mix and it gets more confusing. Add idioms and metaphors to the mix and we can see how confusion happens when trying to communicate with someone who speaks a different language as their primary tongue. The attack on the Bible and The Word of God started from the beginning of time and has confused many people. This is intentional. Most people (I can remember being this way) hear Bible verses and get annoyed thinking it’s a riddle meant to confuse. Most of my life I never tried to understand the Bible because of this. This was intentional as well. The Word of God has been confused by antichrists to keep us from reading it seeking understanding. It wasn’t until I read all the Words in The Spirit that it finally came together. I finally understood what most of my life I couldn’t. It’s amazing to me how Alive the Bible is after all these years of edits, mis&dis translations, and outright censoring. Having eyes to see and ears to hear is the greatest gift! My life has been forever changed never to be the same again. Even with all the changes they’ve done to The Word… the Bible is alive and God speaks through it. It’s wondrous and amazing to behold!
Excellent response.. Agreed.
The Holy Spirit was given to each to show discernment and interpret for us. Listen to the Holy Spirit. The nudgings and the knowings are the key to seeking and when you seek the Holy Spirit shows you meanings and the interpretations. It is a journey of patience, tenacity and love of the Word of Truth.
Thank you, God Bless you Dianne 🙏❤🙏
Wonderful information, Dianne. Our small neighborhood Bible study group started recently with two people, now it’s eleven and growing. Such a hunger for the Truth of God’s Word, along with a desire, for some, to just know where to start and how to digest it all. Few of us even go to “church,” but I remind them that the Lord is with us when we meet in His name.
We are literally starting with the Table of Contents, and how to find the books of the Gospel in the New Testament. And right now, each discussion focuses on Jesus, with simple, brief passages where Jesus answered His disciples questions, or where Jesus put the religious leaders in their place.
Matthew Henry and other commenters, along with notes in study Bibles, helps clarify and create some questions to ask. I am starting to look up Greek / Hebrew meanings because those definitions just light up a verse, even for the few experienced people who didn’t realize the actual meaning. Also using the Five W’s — “who, what, when, where, why,” — it generates questions and great conversation.
When people see their neighbors reading and talking about God’s Word, it is powerful.
Many of you who comment might consider inviting a small group of friends or neighbors to just read a few verses together, look at some Bible outlines or comments, share some conversation, and pray. A retired pastor who has been a friend of mine for many years works with Christians in very poor and remote parts of countries like Peru and Nicaragua. He reminded me that “church” is simply a place where believers in Christ can meet, pray and praise God, even if it’s under a large tree, or standing beside a creek just outside of their village.
Thank you Dianne for the incredible words you share, and the reminder that we are all living in a very special time, with a special opportunity to represent Jesus Christ to those around us, with prayer, assistance and love, by simply following His command to love our neighbors as ourselves.
John832
So good to hear you have a group that is growing in the Lord. Amen. That is so good to hear!!
I think you rock!
Thank you. We’re all the Lord’s living rocks! Amen!
What I understand listening to Melissa on this, Paul and other apostles were teaching them if you believe in Jesus and live your life through Him, no wrath shall come upon you.
After the great falling away, which hasn’t happened yet then the antichrist will be revealed. We are not to be deceived by him. We have the armor and Christ who will protect us.
Yes. I believe as you. The Greek although awkward when read in English, tells much more to me. I like the way you pointed out that the people were confused thinking they would have no wrath and they were having persecutions and were confused as to why when they had the Lord.
It’s far fetched to say they thought a rapture came and went… when Paul never taught it that way and no one had ever said anything like that at that time.
That also made me think of how a lot of the pagan worship ideas and philosophers thought of death as a journey of the soul, and the afterlife and all sorts of ancestral ideas. They already had been indoctrinated with and had come out from, how hard that is to un-indoctrinate and how easy it would be to get people doubting their faith.
Doubt is one of ‘the little foxes, that spoil the vines’. There are many more. When we praying and doubt we become double minded.
JP, I have that trouble at times doubting when praying then I mentally have to strengthen my self to have Faith it is very hard when it happens and it feels like something is inside my mind trying to dissuade or distract me from my prayers. Other times I Feel overwhelmed with strength and strong in my Faith, I have no Doubts! I think it is our human minds we have to shake off and what the little foxes are trying to do to us. Spiritually being attacked!
The mind is where satan works and keeping us distracted is one of his goals. If he can keep us distracted and divided he knows our focus will not be on God and his son Jesus. What you are experiencing is something that happens to me when I pray. Sometimes it’s just like the words just fall out of my mouth and hit the ground. Oh! but every once in a while I reach the Throne Room. When that happens and I am finished praying I can’t even tell you most of what was said because it was my spirit praying for me. Amen! Don’t get discouraged.
Like the old song says ‘When you don’t feel like praying pray’
Weary bodies troubled minds,
they will defeat you every time
circumstances all around you may look dim
but even if you have to crawl, Jesus wants to hear it all
you will be alright if you can get to him
CHORUS
When you don’t feel like praying pray,
and when you think you just can’t get through, pray,
precious to the fathers ear, are three words,
“Lord I’m here”
when you don’t feel like praying, pray.
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There’s an altar just for you,
and it only takes the two
just one humble heart and one holy Lamb,
satan says you cannot pray,
then God removes him from your way,
weak and broken, you can cry “Lord here I am!”
CHORUS
Here’s a link to the song Emma
https://youtu.be/U6hn4vSvaxw?si=VE1Nnd4mNjtBjPhO
Oh JP that is Wondrous! Makes me Happy. I can push on and out think and run the devil! 😁🙏🏻 I saved the link for the song, Thanks Much! Blessing Friend!🙋🏻♀️
🙂 God bless you Emma.