What did Jesus mean about sending the Holy Spirit, and the Kingdom of God?
What about languages? What did the gift of tongues mean? What are the tongues of fire and which interpretation is the one that most accurately gives us the truth?
There has been a lot of controversy over translations of the Words of Jesus and the Holy Bible itself. Not much arguing over the Old Testament for the Hebrew language keeps that in tact. The controversy is over the New Testament. And why is that? History shows us a most promising outline that the controversy was and is by design and always has been by those crept in to confuse and offer man made interpretations. Why is that? We know there are many perceptions to that answer, the most obvious has been to control the masses and line them all up with the same mindset of thinking. This type of force is generally engraved with words like, “unless you do this and this, and if you do this and that, you are going to suffer in hell, burning forever”. Well, no one wants that so they fall in line and those that don’t, are said to be creating doubt, discord, and arguments among those who believe.
Basically if you question the authority of the pastor or church, that dictates what one will believe as orthodox and what will be deemed unorthodox or heretical is forbidden. Forbidden to even think about, let alone to say or question. Tiny questions are allowed, big questions about mysteries or pointing out scripture that goes against the interpretation given, generally are not allowed for you are not learned.
After all, they are the ones with the Pastor’s Tool Box!
And if you are a new believer, it is not allowed to question what is told to you. Or shall I say the new convert is not allowed to do any THINKING for themselves, and certainly NOT ASKING THE HOLY SPIRIT for direction, for they are unworthy as new found believers to even have such a thought. That all comes later, after all, they are babes in Christ. At least that is how it appears to be taught and done today by many of the mega churches in league with the United Nations World Council of Churches.
History has recorded documentation of all the terrible punishments and deaths of those who ever went against the state and religious authority, even at the time of the first followers of the way of Jesus, all the way up to those who dared to think outside of what the organized church and state dictated after its forming at the council of Nicea, and throughout the reformation period where protestors transcribed the scriptures from the Latin no one could read into their own languages that could be read for themselves. Even up to this day there are religious disputes in nations that end in deaths and arrests. Even wars (jihads) are fought over beliefs. Yet, for the most part the church excommunicates, and destroys ones reputation among other church members when their thoughts differ beyond what is being taught. A public walk of shame.
What did the first followers of the way do without an A.I. app?
Basic World Church Council/ Zionist Christian thoughts…
The first thing a new born Christian must do is repent and confess before men their sins and come down to the altar and publicly make such a confession. When they do, they will be questioned by the Pastor or Altar Callers of how they know they are saved. They will be drilled and then when they are believed to be converting they will be told the next step is baptism. For there are steps to be taken. And the consensus is that there is no such gifting of the Holy Spirit until after they are baptised.
The question is this…”Is this what Jesus said? And is this what the first followers of the way of Jesus said to do?”
The second question is… “Were the first baptised ones receivers of the Holy Spirit once they were baptised by John the Baptist?”
According to the Bible, regardless of what translation one uses, the only one who at Baptism by John the Baptist who received the Holy Spirt descend upon Him like a dove, was Jesus our Lord. No one else received the Holy Spirit until Jesus ascended to His Father and it was sent to the ones gathering in the upper room as Jesus had instructed them to gather. When they did, the Holy Spirit descended upon them as a mighty rushing wind and appeared above them as tongues of fire.
Acts 2:3: “And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.”
This was a fulfillment of the Temple customs of which were a shadow of things to come. Leviticus 6:13: “The fire shall ever be burning upon the altar; it shall never go out.”
Leviticus 9:24: “And there came a fire out from before the LORD, and consumed upon the altar the burnt offering and the fat: [which] when all the people saw, they shouted, and fell on their faces.”
To understand this as a “shadow of things to come” and what it means, we go to the Hebrew Talmud.
“Although a fire descended from heaven upon the altar, it is commanded to add to it a humanly produced fire.” Talmud Eruvin 63a
The Jewish sages taught that the fire was a symbol of God’s love and passion. A human element was needed to keep the fire going and it was a discipline to make sure that the fire was never extinguished. The Hebrew word for fire is spelled, with two letters, Aleph Shin. The Aleph represents God and the Shin represents a consuming passion. Fire is representative of God’s consuming passion. The fire always burned day and night in the temple, but the fire went out in the temple in 586 BC by the Babylonians under King Nebuchadnezzar. The Talmud teaches that the fire would not return to the temple until the Messiah came, was tortured, put to death and resurrected. Then when He would be glorified in heaven on the day of Pentecost the fire would return.
Whereas the Jews await a rebuilding of the Temple and a newly lit fire when the Messiah returns, they missed the greatest coming of all, and that was the coming of the true Messiah of Israel and His sacrifice for all so the Holy Spirit will now dwell in the body and not in a building made by hands. For now we are the Temple most Holy to God and the Holy Spirit of the Lord dwells in us and us in the Holy Spirit of the Lord. Just as the Lord and the Prophets of old said it would be as it is written in the Word of God.
In Acts 2:3 we learn that on the day of Pentecost after the Jesus returned to heaven to be glorified the Holy Spirit descended in tongues of fire. The word tongue in the Aramaic is leshana which really means language. The believers were filled with the Holy Spirit and everyone heard the word in their own language.
Acts 2:5-6 KJV: “5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.“
The Word of God was heard by them who were dwelling in Jerusalem out of every nation under heaven in their own language. Not utterances that needed an interpreter… but their own language. In acts 2 it goes on to say “7And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. 12And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this? 13Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.“
Whatever was uttered was astounding as the apostles uttering the words did not speak the languages they were now uttering and the Holy Spirit moved the devout men to hear it and receive it and believe. There were no altar calls, no interrogation as to how they know they believe. They received the Holy Spirit as they heard the words. There was no first step except to have ears to hear and believe.
The Kingdom was and is at hand.
Pastor Dave Brisbin wrote a piece on April 30, 2023 that defines the ministry of Jesus. Pastor Brisbin calls himself a follower of the way of Jesus and has spent a long time studying the Word of God in Aramaic. He describes the truth in the Words of Jesus when He spoke about the Kingdom. The one we call the Kingdom of God on earth as it is in Heaven.
“It’s ironic that Jesus’ primary teaching, the one that defines his ministry and on which he spends nearly all his time, is the one we most misunderstand. Jesus is always talking about entering Kingdom, and of course we’re thinking about entering Heaven. Entering some Place. Or Space.
“Entering kingdom is a metaphor. A physical image for a spiritual realignment. There is no place or space to kingdom. We don’t enter it. We become it. Pointing at the children Jesus’ friends were shooing away, Jesus instructed to let them through, for such as these are kingdom. The littlest ones, whose egos have not yet formed, are kingdom—have not yet learned not to be kingdom so have no need to re-become it.
“Kingdom is a shift in identity. Or better, kingdom is the realization of our true identity, the recapturing of who we really are—were at the beginning and still are underneath. The children running at our feet are kingdom because they haven’t yet learned to believe they are not. But it won’t be long before their minds take hold, telling them they must think about who they are, to hold that thought and defend it as they work to make it so. Whatever we think we are nothing without, lost without, is what we identify with. But anything we can lose is not who we are, and everything we think, will eventually be lost.
“The freedom of the truth Jesus offers is that who we really are can never be lost. Ever. Not even in death. Any identity imagined as separate from any other identity, God’s identity, is illusion, so to strip the illusion is to see that we and the Father are one: true identity. Jesus’ Way is relinquishing everything that can be relinquished until only that which can’t be relinquished remains. The point of any spiritual journey is to arrive at the ground of this irreducible presence, an identity that can’t be lost, but costs us everything to which we cling.
“The first responders to a message like this are those who are already close to the ground. We call them humble. Jesus calls them children, for such as they are kingdom.” You can read more of Pastor Brisbin’s truths at: Message Archive | theeffect
So, as Mark Taylor has said… “The 501c3 churches are being called into Judgement!”
We are now watching as the Lord and His Holy Spirit are no longer letting false shepherds get fat off His sheep! He is turning our eyes to truth and is teaching His people Himself! Just like He promised and has always done. He is breaking the spells of the hypnotisers and memorizers of wickedness who have mocked His Holy Word and twisted the scriptures for their own gain. He stands at the door and knocks. Open up to Him and He will sup with you and you with Him.
Babylon the Great is falling, falling… Come out from her my people!
KEEP ON PRESSING INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD! PRESS, PRESS, PRESS!
DIANNE
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Sorry I’m late in response! Between your notes, Dianne, and the comments below…..there is so much deep and warm loving
understanding. I have not watched the videos above, yet, but will. I thank God/Son of God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit
each day that is given to us for learning more of God’s Word. The studies of your writing thru these posts have helped thru prayer,
discernment and understanding. One thing that I have learned…. which I have stopped doing is purchasing books written by
profiteering “Christian” motivational speakers. Those monies can be an offering for humanity needs. Love y’all, JVC
Very illuminating article. I especially liked the part about the restoration of the fire to the temple as I had not considered this before now. It is Hebraic tradition that the Law was given 50 days after the Passover when Israel left Egypt. It also signifies the inception of a new covenant, namely the Law. With every covenant involving God there is a visible sign or token to remind the recipients of the presence of that covenant. Circumcision being perhaps one of the most notable ones as in Genesis 17:1ff Abram (Father of Heights) becomes Abraham (the ‘ha’ being added signifying the presence of the Spirit and changing his name to Father of a Multitude). Now, every day Abraham is going to be graphically reminded of the change in his body that signifies the promise of an heir…
When the Tabernacle in the Wilderness was dedicated, the tent of meeting was filled with the smoke of the Lord’s acceptance, as was the Temple many years later again showing the Lord’s acceptance.
At the time of Jeremiah, the prophecy in Ch. 31:31-34 promised another change coming with a new covenant in which the Spirit would not just be upon a select few as in the days of the Judges and Prophets, but that all would know Him because the Spirit would be given to all who love Him. I believe this promise was fulfilled as recorded in Acts 2:1-4. Not only did the Lord accept their offering of themselves by the cloven tongues of fire, but the token of the arrival of this new covenant was the gifting of tongues. The text in KJV says that Pentecost was FULLY come (emphasis mine) in that it had been a long time in arriving, all the way back to the Garden when mankind first lost the intimate relationship with his Creator.
As with all covenants between God and Man, there is a visible sign or token of this new covenant. All throughout the Old Testament one can see seven of the manifestation gifts from God, namely: word of knowledge, word of wisdom and the discerning of spirits. Also, the gift of faith, gifts of healings and the working of miracles. 1Cor 12:7-10 lists nine and the two that are new to the list, which cannot be found in the O.T. are tongues and the interpretation of tongues (also called diversities of tongues). These, I believe, are the tokens of the new covenant promised in Jeremiah 31.
There are numerous benefits from speaking in tongues which are for another time. Suffice it to say that the Enemy has done a pretty good job of queering much of Christendom about this gift, largely through the ignorance of its purposes and functioning within the personal life of the believer and in the congregation. Interpretation is all but gone from most American churches along with the key reason for its presence in the life of a Christian. One of the admonitions throughout the New Testament is to ‘walk by the Spirit’ but no place is there a step by step “how to” to do this. It, of course is a highly individualized learning curve but I believe that the interpretation of one’s tongue (prayer language some call it) in appropriate settings is a fast track on how to walk by the Spirit, especially when it comes to perceiving which voice is the Lord’s and which is ours. At least that is how I see this beautiful dance we have with Him.
I have found the Aramaic/English New Testament by Andrew Roth extremely helpful as a tool to understanding the Jewish Roots of the faith, which we have embraced-observing His Shabbats and 7 Feasts laid out in Leviticus 23.
I admit that I attend a 501(c)(3) church because the one that I attend is joyful. I tithe to the extent of paying for admission, no more. I contribute in other ways that I feel help our society outside of the church. I do not participate in any of the church bible study groups because I know that I would be thrown out. In the last year, I was doing bible study with a neighbor and had to stop because when I brought up questions (more for her than me I had to admit), she had to ask her husband for help. As for the Kingdom of God, I believe that the earth will be restored to God’s righteousness where we will dwell. Perhaps that is what Pastor Brisbin meant when he stated that we would become it. I do not believe that the earth will be destroyed but rather renewed. I know many Christians who believe differently than me. Jesus asked us to pray that thy Kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
I agree. The entire mess we are all coming out of…and waking up to see all of it a little at a time. Some more than others. And we piece truth together…the most important is to each have our own personal relationship with the Lord and that isn’t taught…it is discovered and built upon and it grows into a strong bond. Amen.
I have never given money to a tv evangelist, but have given to missionaries who’ve visited our church. Have I received anything for that, who knows. It was never given to receive. I can tell you though, that I am a firm believer in tithing. My own experience has made this precept true for me. Not the words of any pastor or preacher.
My husband made enough money that there was never a need for me to work. I did work jobs though, and did as I wanted with my money. This usually resulted in shopping, which to get discounts I signed up for store credit cards, and therefore soon found myself spending more than I was making. Typical 20+ year old.
We started attending church together in our mid 20’s, I was soon to have my second child, had premature labor pains and was put on my medical before the baby came, therefore I was no longer bringing in money to pay my own credit cards.
I knew of tithing as I had attended church as a child, as did my husband, but I don’t think his parents ever tithed.
So we started tithing, and in one service, for a reason I don’t remember, we pledged a certain amount, which I don’t remember either. Before the money was due, my husband panicked and told the pastor that he didn’t feel he could swing the tithe and the pledge. So our pastor explained to us the importance of tithing, and we agreed that we would let the pledge go in order to pay the tithe.
A few months of caring for a newborn, while trying to sleep after a midnight shift while my 5 year old attended school, became very difficult to manage. So after much consideration and prayer, I made a deal with the Lord. I told him that if He would see to it that our finances were taken care of, I would give my energies to the church. I received confirmation through a specific prayer that I prayed and quit my job, and started cleaning the church.
Months later, I remember my husband coming to me and telling me, that he had no idea how he was able to pay for my credit cards on top of his usual household expenses and our tithes. He said he was spending every month, more than he was making.
Our church had begun it’s process of building it’s new facilities, and my husband and I spent as much time there as we could helping. And 3 years later my husband, by an act that I can say was supernatural, got a new job that tripled his salary. Praise the Lord!!
If tithing is not a biblical precept for today, why would He honor it?
We are to do unto others as we would have them do unto us. God gives to his children when they rely on him. The tithe is was to the levitical priesthood for they were to receive a tenth as they were not given land, but the duty to care for the Tabernacle and priestly duties. Today, we are the Temple… when we give to others freely… it is as doing it for the Lord. Now… supporting the church is good. I am not one to speak of tithes and offerings for my thoughts on the structured church is different due to the way it has become as a collective body. Does the church not give to those inside of it who need help? What good does it do for one to become a burden on the church body by tithing and not being able to pay your bills? There are other ways of tithing, in service as you did in cleaning. God’s ways are many and not mans ways. God always cares for his children. Are there not those who love the Lord and tithe and give offerings? And yet are struck with calamities? Yes. In Job we see the example of trying to figure out or complicate how God works. We simply don’t have to figure that out because it is beyond our comprehension. Love God with all your heart, mind, strength and soul, and Love your neighbor as yourself, in that you will have relationships with both God and others. You will be blessed and know it in your heart. Amen.
This revelation by Pastor Dave Brisbin is fantastic. As I have said before, I left the church made by man many years ago.
I am reminded of a church I use to go to and shaking my head no. I talked to the “Pastor” concerning the worship group and the hype of it. Everyone became emotional yet it wasn’t the Holy Spirit. Well, I was kicked out, publicly. Ha!
Thank you for this article Dianne.
God bless you.
Truly a magnificent interpretation from Pastor Dave Brisbin on the Jesus Way. Exactly this has been on my mind for years now, but never read it anywhere until now. Mind control begins the moment from birth, as a child is fed all kinds of propaganda about who s/he is. Many contribute to that conditioning from cradle to grave. Faith is to know what’s true can never be lost, no matter what goes on in this illusion called “I” & “world”. Returning to one’s true nature by relinquishing all that are falsely identified with in this matrix requires a great deal of shedding. Best done willingly, gratefully, joyfully or it becomes problematic & painful. Without this understanding, religion is just another endeavor coveted by the ego (false self), manifesting the many delusions, contradictions, ignorance & scandals in wanton display these days. The journey home can only be accomplished by becoming less (of the ego), not more of ego (accumulations).
This is precious. Thank you!
God bless you. I’m glad we’re going into the new 5D world. The kingdom of God is withing each of us. Once a person really understands that, there’s no going back.
I read an article that stated there are over 200k pastors in the US who serve the deep state. Follow the money and coercion.